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u4iX
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(08-22-2014, 07:23 PM)
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Originally Posted by Dax01

So you're arguing with me for no reason?

No because you're original argument was for female Halo community member volunteers to be able to walk up next to Bravo and a fun time at PAX.

Originally Posted by Dax01

You're missing the point of my original post, and how are women supposed to get better at commentating if they're not asked to commentate? Same with competing in pro-leagues?

Originally Posted by Dax01

Still not seeing the harm of letting a prominent female member of the Halo community (or 343) commentate.

Originally Posted by Dax01

I bet if you looked and asked around you'd get some willing volunteers.

And bringing up a legitimate point is turning something into a gender debate? Oh man.

Blueblur1
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(08-22-2014, 07:24 PM)
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Originally Posted by u4iX

They should work as hard as the boys, creating content on YouTube and Twitch casting over gameplays, then once they have a solid portfolio built up, approach a smaller scale tournament organizer like AEL or UGC, after they continue to build their brand, perfect their craft, and gain experience, approaching a large scale event such as PAX or Gamescom might yield the fruits of their labor.

If they're good at it (casting), then the other stuff doesn't matter.
Tawpgun
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(08-22-2014, 07:24 PM)
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Yes it would be cool to see more girls

Yes its a shame there aren't really many if any at all to cast or play

But lets talk about BxR's and noob combos now
Chitown B
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(08-22-2014, 07:24 PM)
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Originally Posted by WhiteRabbitEXE

Yeah, I'll just go do that. And every single time I play I'll make sure the other 7 are on.


...ooooor how about no, let me just matchmake without getting fucked over. :3

lol. find a group of gaffers. Or check out a website with Halo groups. It's not that hard to find a bunch of Halo fans who play nightly.
The Librarian
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(08-22-2014, 07:26 PM)
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Originally Posted by heckfu

You saying casting is all about fun is kind of offensive to people who have made a living by cultivating it is a craft.

If you had a job i would try to marginalize it by saying anyone could do it because it's "just for fun" but you don't.

You're turning my comment into something it's not.

Originally Posted by u4iX

No because you're original argument was for female Halo community member volunteers to be able to walk up next to Bravo and a fun time at PAX.

Actually, no, I did not. Please read what I said:

Originally Posted by Dax01

It's a legitimate point to bring up, and I'm pretty sure there are plenty of prominent female members of the Halo community that would love to commentate if asked, including some of them at 343.

Booties
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(08-22-2014, 07:26 PM)
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I went to a video game expo once and MLG halo games were set up outside this RV. There was a girl team called PMS who kept shitting on all the boys (there weren't any other organized boy teams iirc). It was funny.

HTH.

Remember when Dennis Miller did commenatary for NFL games? That shit was bad and he was used to cameras.
CyReN
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(08-22-2014, 07:27 PM)

Originally Posted by Blueblur1

If they're good at it (casting), then the other stuff doesn't matter.

Experience matters, people can act a lot of different from casting from their bedroom to in front of a crowd of a few thousand. That when you need the event experience, plus working a production cast helps a lot.
u4iX
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(08-22-2014, 07:28 PM)
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Originally Posted by Dax01

Actually, no, I did not. Please read what I said:

My argument was that if they're good at it, they can do it, and you kept arguing. There's no free rides in these mean eSports streets.
heckfu
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(08-22-2014, 07:28 PM)
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Originally Posted by Booties

I went to a video game expo once and MLG halo games were set up outside this RV. There was a girl team called PMS who kept shitting on all the boys (there weren't any other organized boy teams iirc). It was funny.

HTH.

Remember when Dennis Miller did commenatary for NFL games? That shit was bad and he was used to cameras.

But commentating is all about fun! As long as there's a body in a chair that fulfills a quote that suits your agenda then who cares if he/she is good!
antigoon
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(08-22-2014, 07:29 PM)
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How does an anodyne statement like "there should be some women casters" get turned into a controversy?
u4iX
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(08-22-2014, 07:29 PM)
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Originally Posted by heckfu

But commentating is all about fun! As long as there's a body in a chair that fulfills a quote that suits your agenda then who cares if he/she is good!

Kaceytron, it's time to dust off the mic and hop on up here next to Bravo.
The Librarian
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(08-22-2014, 07:30 PM)
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Originally Posted by heckfu

But commentating is all about fun! As long as there's a body in a chair that fulfills a quote that suits your agenda then who cares if he/she is good!

My "fun" comment was referring to the event as a whole, not the casting job specifically. Having a larger female presence would make the event more fun for me. Watching pro players and people commentate on the games is fun, so I'd like to see some women commentate if at all possible.

There's nothing wrong with that.

Originally Posted by antigoon

How does an anodyne statement like "there should be some women casters" get turned into a controversy?

NeoGAF, in general, is bad at discussing gender topics.
u4iX
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(08-22-2014, 07:31 PM)
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Originally Posted by Dax01

My "fun" comment was referring to the event as a whole, not the casting job specifically. Having a larger female presence would make the event more fun for me. Watching pro players and people commentate on the games is fun, so I'd like to see some women commentate if at all possible.

There's nothing wrong with that.

You're right, and if they're qualified, they can do it.

Cool?
Tawpgun
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(08-22-2014, 07:40 PM)
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ar br or smg


there's one correct answer
Torlain
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(08-22-2014, 07:41 PM)

Originally Posted by Dax01

NeoGAF, in general, is bad at discussing gender topics.

I thought this wasn't a gender topic/debate...

Originally Posted by Dax01

I bet if you looked and asked around you'd get some willing volunteers.

And bringing up a legitimate point is turning something into a gender debate? Oh man.

I guess the good thing is that we actually have no idea who's commentating until next week's Bulletin. Glad no knee jerk reactions have occurred over a supposed non-issue.

Back to your regularly scheduled program!
ViewtifulJC
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(08-22-2014, 07:43 PM)
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jokes on all you mothafuckas, its actually two black dudes commentating the event
thezerofire
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(08-22-2014, 07:44 PM)
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Originally Posted by Tawpgun

ar br or smg


there's one correct answer

dual smg's duh
squidhands
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(08-22-2014, 07:47 PM)
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Originally Posted by Tawpgun

ar br or smg


there's one correct answer

DMR
Mixolydian
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(08-22-2014, 07:47 PM)
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Originally Posted by ViewtifulJC

jokes on all you mothafuckas, its actually two black dudes commentating the event

Please. It's two Maori warriors dressed in traditional garb.
u4iX
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(08-22-2014, 07:48 PM)
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Originally Posted by ViewtifulJC

jokes on all you mothafuckas, its actually two black dudes commentating the event

BL4K!
TheOddOne
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(08-22-2014, 07:48 PM)
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Originally Posted by ViewtifulJC

jokes on all you mothafuckas, its actually two black dudes commentating the event

Hard racist pass.

:P
Booties
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(08-22-2014, 07:48 PM)
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Originally Posted by Torlain

I thought this wasn't a gender topic/debate...

EEEEEEEEXACTLY.

Who's gonna help me get a 50 in swat?
jem0208
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(08-22-2014, 07:48 PM)
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Originally Posted by Dax01

Why do they have to be good? It's all about fun, right? I really don't see the harm in letting them commentate with Bravo even if they aren't the best. I'd love to see Kiki or Alison or Bonnie or Jess talk along side Bravo. What's wrong with that?

Because it would be detrimental to the experience, just as a bad male commentator would be detrimental to the experience. An important aspect of commentating is the discussion between the two commentators, at least IMO. If the pair can't entertainingly discuss what's going on it won't be as good.
squidhands
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(08-22-2014, 07:49 PM)
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Jim Ross and Jerry The King Lawler for commentating everything, please.

Originally Posted by ViewtifulJC

jokes on all you mothafuckas, its actually two black dudes commentating the event

Ooooh, color commentators. I like those.
thezerofire
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(08-22-2014, 07:52 PM)
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Originally Posted by Booties

EEEEEEEEXACTLY.

Who's gonna help me get a 50 in swat?

like in halo 3 right now?
u4iX
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(08-22-2014, 07:52 PM)
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Originally Posted by squidhands


Ooooh, color commentators. I like those.

TheOddOne
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(08-22-2014, 07:53 PM)
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Where is Kevin Sorbo when you need him.
Moa
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(08-22-2014, 07:54 PM)
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Originally Posted by squidhands

Jim Ross and Jerry The King Lawler for commentating everything, please.

And you can get those commentators for just $9.99!
ViewtifulJC
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(08-22-2014, 07:56 PM)
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Originally Posted by squidhands

Ooooh, color commentators. I like those.

underrated comment, like all of squidhands' comments

Originally Posted by Moa

And you can get those commentators for just $9.99!

If I made a video game, I would make sure to have a JR Button for random hype moments. *perfect 4 shot to win the game* "BAH GAWD KANG STOP THE DAMN MATCH! ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!"
Booties
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(08-22-2014, 07:57 PM)
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Originally Posted by thezerofire

like in halo 3 right now?

hmmm. wonder how hard it is to find a match in halo 3 playlists right now.
squidhands
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(08-22-2014, 07:59 PM)
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Originally Posted by u4iX

'twas a pun
EvB
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(08-22-2014, 08:00 PM)
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Originally Posted by Booties

hmmm. wonder how hard it is to find a match in halo 3 playlists right now.

The game got given away for free, so it might be a bit healthier that it had been
User 73706
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(08-22-2014, 08:01 PM)

Originally Posted by Tawpgun

ar br or smg


there's one correct answer

popeye's

Originally Posted by ViewtifulJC

jokes on all you mothafuckas, its actually two black dudes commentating the event

I hope they switch things up a bit throughout the event. I mean don't get me wrong, I'm not a racist or anything (I talk to some pretty well-spoken Black Men on GAF), but I just don't know if I could relate hearing them talking about situational area control and gunning people down, especially commentating a subject like Halo.

Originally Posted by squidhands

Ooooh, color commentators. I like those.

I love a good pun, but I don't think tawpgun or anyone younger than him will get this.
thezerofire
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(08-22-2014, 08:02 PM)
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Originally Posted by Booties

hmmm. wonder how hard it is to find a match in halo 3 playlists right now.

I should clarify, I'm going to be gone until the end of September 1st and I only have an unused 2-day of Live but I'll play
Blueblur1
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(08-22-2014, 08:05 PM)
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Originally Posted by CyReN

Experience matters, people can act a lot of different from casting from their bedroom to in front of a crowd of a few thousand. That when you need the event experience, plus working a production cast helps a lot.

I don't doubt that experience would be valuable. But I also don't think someone has to be creating content on a continual basis, gather a following, etc.
Booties
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(08-22-2014, 08:11 PM)
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Originally Posted by thezerofire

I should clarify, I'm going to be gone until the end of September 1st and I only have an unused 2-day of Live but I'll play

2 day live? WTF? Why are you poor?
thezerofire
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(08-22-2014, 08:13 PM)
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Originally Posted by Booties

2 day live? WTF? Why are you poor?

I don't play videogames
Booties
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(08-22-2014, 08:14 PM)
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Originally Posted by thezerofire

I don't play videogames

oic. Yeah I don't either. We'd probably be bad and annoyed that most of our time would spent waiting for Matchmaking to find a game.
thezerofire
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(08-22-2014, 08:17 PM)
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Originally Posted by Booties

oic. Yeah I don't either. We'd probably be bad and annoyed that most of our time would spent waiting for Matchmaking to find a game.

I'd be up to give it a shot still
antigoon
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(08-22-2014, 08:18 PM)
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Originally Posted by Sub-Zero at a Starbucks

I hope they switch things up a bit throughout the event. I mean don't get me wrong, I'm not a racist or anything (I talk to some pretty well-spoken Black Men on GAF), but I just don't know if I could relate hearing them talking about situational area control and gunning people down, especially commentating a subject like Halo.

10/10
Sai-kun
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(08-22-2014, 09:12 PM)
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Originally Posted by antigoon

How does an anodyne statement like "there should be some women casters" get turned into a controversy?

this is halogaf dude
squidhands
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(08-22-2014, 09:13 PM)
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Originally Posted by Sai-kun

this is halogaf dude

User 73706
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(08-22-2014, 09:17 PM)

Originally Posted by antigoon

How does an anodyne statement like "there should be some women casters" get turned into a controversy?

besada
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(08-22-2014, 09:33 PM)
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Originally Posted by antigoon

How does an anodyne statement like "there should be some women casters" get turned into a controversy?

Yes, I also don't understand this. But I don't want an explanation, either, because I've spent my morning trying to deal with shitbags who think it's cute to post people's photos online and harass them because they hold a different viewpoint.

So, instead, I'll just say to all parties involved, let it drop.
FUNKNOWN iXi
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(08-22-2014, 09:40 PM)
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Originally Posted by Sub-Zero at a Starbucks

Originally Posted by besada

So, instead, I'll just say to all parties involved, let it drop.

This can't possibly be a coincidence. Dude has a quail call for mods...
heckfu
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(08-22-2014, 09:41 PM)
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Originally Posted by Booties

oic. Yeah I don't either. We'd probably be bad and annoyed that most of our time would spent waiting for Matchmaking to find a game.

you have a q t avatar

Originally Posted by besada

Yes, I also don't understand this. But I don't want an explanation, either, because I've spent my morning trying to deal with shitbags who think it's cute to post people's photos online and harass them because they hold a different viewpoint.

So, instead, I'll just say to all parties involved, let it drop.

Why do you have such an interest in protecting Dax? Everytime she is in an argument you pop in and protect her. I understand you have a friendship inside and outside of gaf but it's unfair when she continually shits on people's opinions and for being male etc and then OTHERS get banned.

Go nuts and give me a 2 week ban for criticizing a mod but it's pretty insane that whenever she feels like there's an injustice regardless of her negative participation she can just whistle and get someone in to shut down conversation.
StalkerUKCG
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(08-22-2014, 09:41 PM)
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Originally Posted by Dax01

NeoGAF, in general, is bad at discussing gender topics.

No its bad at discussing topics with people who are waving around an agenda and not being reasonable.
antigoon
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(08-22-2014, 09:43 PM)
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WTF

The Librarian
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Edit: was asked to drop it.
besada
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Originally Posted by heckfu

Why do you have such an interest in protecting Dax? Everytime she is in an argument you pop in and protect her. I understand you have a friendship inside and outside of gaf but it's unfair when she continually shits on people's opinions and for being male etc and then OTHERS get banned.

When members PM me and say there's a problem, I investigate, regardless of who that member is. Like several other members of this community, I found it a little crazy that a simple comment created such a derail. So I asked both sides to drop the issue. Given that I've been in here exactly twice, I'll leave you to whatever conspiracy theories you want to invent regarding who called me in.

As for your ban, it's going to be longer than two weeks. Anyone else who would like to discuss moderation, PM a moderator or send an email to support@neogaf.com. Complaining about it in the thread is unacceptable and a violation of the ToS.

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