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amnesiac
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(06-12-2014, 08:02 AM)
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Originally Posted by Random17

Yes, confirmed in the IGN/Gamespot interview I think.

Originally Posted by Stinkles

Yes. Cg or old school real-time. Switchable (toggle)

Awesome, thanks!
Fracas
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(06-12-2014, 08:02 AM)
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Yo Frank, since recon is gone is there a control scheme that lets me map reload to RB?
Regret Upon Approval
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(06-12-2014, 08:02 AM)
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Originally Posted by Stinkles

Yes. Cg or old school real-time. Switchable (toggle)

How about H3's cutscenes?
Otherwise it is going to be a weird jump from 2 to 3.
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(06-12-2014, 08:04 AM)
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Originally Posted by Regret Upon Approval

How about H3's cutscenes?
Otherwise it is going to be a weird jump from 2 to 3.

Halo 3 will have the original cutscenes. No remasters.
belushy
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(06-12-2014, 08:04 AM)

Originally Posted by Regret Upon Approval

How about H3's cutscenes?
Otherwise it is going to be a weird jump from 2 to 3.

Halo 3 is going to be the same other than the FPS and resolution boost.
Kuroyume
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(06-12-2014, 08:07 AM)
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Why do the ramps and rotation structure on Ascension look like they're made of chrome?
User 73706
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(06-12-2014, 08:12 AM)

Originally Posted by Kuroyume

Why do the ramps and rotation structure on Ascension look like they're made of chrome?

Forerunner tech is running on Android as explained in the paywalled Waypoint EU fiction.
Ryaaan14
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(06-12-2014, 08:13 AM)
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I still want to know what the Halo CE and Halo 2 maps that didn't get the treatment look like. I can't imagine the old textures at 1080p.
Demoncarnotaur
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(06-12-2014, 08:16 AM)
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Originally Posted by Ryaaan14

I still want to know what the Halo CE and Halo 2 maps that didn't get the treatment look like. I can't imagine the old textures at 1080p.

Ryaaan14
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(06-12-2014, 08:18 AM)
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Originally Posted by Demoncarnotaur

It'll be funny to see the old maps with completely remade character and gun models and new effects.

It'll look like we're playing those pre-alpha builds in our homes.
Emperor Bohe
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(06-12-2014, 08:21 AM)
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Originally Posted by Ryaaan14

It'll be funny to see the old maps with completely remade character and gun models and new effects.

It'll look like we're playing those pre-alpha builds in our homes.

I though all of the models were going to stay intact, except for the 6 remade maps in the new engine
HTupolev
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(06-12-2014, 08:22 AM)
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Originally Posted by Emperor Bohe

I though all of the models were going to stay intact, except for the 6 remade maps in the new engine

That's what Ryaaan14 is referring to, presumably.

Edit: Err, maybe I read the post wrong. I don't know. Looks like the post does imply new effects on old maps.
Ryaaan14
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(06-12-2014, 08:24 AM)
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Originally Posted by Emperor Bohe

I though all of the models were going to stay intact, except for the 6 remade maps in the new engine

Oh...wut?

Originally Posted by HTupolev

That's what Ryaaan14 is referring to, presumably.

Edit: Err, maybe I read the post wrong. I don't know. Looks like the post does imply new effects on old maps.

I was assuming only the maps themselves were gonna be untouched. So what da hell...you'll only have shiny new character models in the anniversary maps?

Need clarification here pls
HTupolev
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(06-12-2014, 08:26 AM)
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Originally Posted by Ryaaan14

I was assuming only the maps themselves were gonna be untouched. So what da hell...you'll only have shiny new character models in the anniversary maps?

Need clarification here pls

They never said anything about remastered Halo 2 MP. It sounds like Halo 2 MP is Halo 2 MP.

Combining visual layers would be technically quirky and look extremely weird; all old or all new would probably look better than a lopsided mix of new dynamic assets on old level detail.
Gipsy Danger
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(06-12-2014, 08:26 AM)
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I'm not a big halo fan but nobody can argue that this is one of the best value propositions in all of gaming. I can't wait to pick this and have something to play on my Xbone.
Simply Sami
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(06-12-2014, 08:30 AM)
Only disappointing thing is no firefight.

As I was disappointed that wasn't in Halo 4.
belushy
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(06-12-2014, 08:31 AM)

Originally Posted by Ryaaan14

Oh...wut?



I was assuming only the maps themselves were gonna be untouched. So what da hell...you'll only have shiny new character models in the anniversary maps?

Need clarification here pls

You'll have two "Halo 2" Mp experiences in MCC.

Halo 2 Anniversary - The visually remastered maps, character, and gun models that will be played on a modified modern engine with Halo 2-like mechanics.

Halo 2 Original MP - MP as it was when it was out on the original Xbox. No character models, maps, gun models, or gameplay mechanics are changed. Only difference is that it will be boosted up to 1080p and the framerate will be boosted to 60 FPS.
Ryaaan14
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(06-12-2014, 08:31 AM)
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Originally Posted by HTupolev

They never said anything about remastered Halo 2 MP. It sounds like Halo 2 MP is Halo 2 MP.

Combining visual layers would be technically quirky and look extremely weird; all old or all new would probably look better than a lopsided mix of new dynamic assets on old level detail.

So, let me get this straight.

You go into the 6 redone maps and your Spartan and guns look all Xboney.

You go into the weaksauce unpopular peeon maps and it's all oldschool including your character and guns.

In matchmaking, if you get an old map, you all look oldtimey.

If you get a new map you all look Xboney.

Is there an old variant of the redone maps too?
Der Flatulator
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(06-12-2014, 08:33 AM)
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Originally Posted by Ryaaan14


Is there an old variant of the redone maps too?

Yes.
MrGreencastle
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(06-12-2014, 08:36 AM)
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Originally Posted by Ryaaan14

So, let me get this straight.

You go into the 6 redone maps and your Spartan and guns look all Xboney. Yes

You go into the weaksauce unpopular peeon maps and it's all oldschool including your character and guns. Err...yes

In matchmaking, if you get an old map, you all look oldtimey. Yes

If you get a new map you all look Xboney. If you mean by the 6 new anniversary halo 2 variants, yes.

Is there an old variant of the redone maps too?

Yes to the bolded. Every map in Halo history + 6 redone Halo 2 maps. Character models are only different in Halo CE: A Campaign (with new graphics on), Halo 2 Anniversary Campaign (with new graphics on), and Halo 2 "anniversary" mode (new engine) on those 6 maps. No difference of models in CE MP, Not in regular H2 MP, Not in Halo 3 at all, not in Halo 4 at all.
Ryaaan14
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(06-12-2014, 08:36 AM)
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Originally Posted by Der Flatulator

Yes.

Originally Posted by MrGreencastle

Yes to the bolded. Every map in Halo history + 6 redone Halo 2 maps. Character models are only different in Halo CE: A Campaign (with new graphics on), Halo 2 Anniversary Campaign (with new graphics on), and Halo 2 "anniversary" mode (new engine) on those 6 maps. No difference of models in CE MP, Not in regular H2 MP, Not in Halo 3 at all, not in Halo 4 at all.



My brain can't handle all these variants.
Ubersnug
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(06-12-2014, 08:41 AM)
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I posted this in the other master Chief collection thread, but thought I would try here as well.

Using the xbox feedback site, I've submitted my interest/idea in a collectors edition of the Master Chief collection. But, given the very low response it currently has, and the multitude of other similar ideas that have since appeared, I'm doubtful my suggestion will have any influence. But, if anyone is interested in at least putting their vote against one of these suggestions, the cumulative votes from all the similar suggestions may help convince them.

http://xbox.uservoice.com/forums/251...on-collectors-
HTupolev
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(06-12-2014, 08:44 AM)
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Originally Posted by Ryaaan14

Is there an old variant of the redone maps too?

Yes. The original Halo 2 multiplayer is all there. The redone maps (complete with forge and whatnot) aren't even running in the Halo 2 engine on a gameplay level; they're a new game that appears to be closely based on Halo 4 with a Halo 2-like configuration.

Originally Posted by Ryaaan14

My brain can't handle all these variants.

Yeah, it's a pretty messy product. Basically:

CEA Campaign
H2A Campaign
Halo 3 Campaign
Halo 4 Campaign
CE MP
Halo 2 MP
Crazy frankenstein Halo 2-esque modern MP
Halo 3 MP
Halo 4 MP
Ryaaan14
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(06-12-2014, 08:47 AM)
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Originally Posted by HTupolev

Yes. The original Halo 2 multiplayer is all there. The redone maps (complete with forge and whatnot) aren't even running in the Halo 2 engine on a gameplay level; they're a new game that appears to be closely based on Halo 4 with a Halo 2-like configuration.


Yeah, it's a pretty messy product. Basically:

CEA Campaign
H2A Campaign
Halo 3 Campaign
Halo 4 Campaign
CE MP
Halo 2 MP
Crazy frankenstein Halo 2-esque modern MP
Halo 3 MP
Halo 4 MP

Am I alone here in thinking this shit should be explained more clearly? I can see a few people being shook by this.

Don't get me wrong I'm still super hyped but god damn.
HTupolev
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(06-12-2014, 08:49 AM)
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Originally Posted by Ryaaan14

Am I alone here in thinking this shit should be explained more clearly?

No. What's really annoying about it is how a lot of the language causing confusion almost feels pointlessly misleading, like "Halo 2 forge is a thing."

Refer to the OP. It's lengthy, but it explains it.
Turboclese
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(06-12-2014, 08:51 AM)
So pumped and confused at the same time.
Solidsoul
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(06-12-2014, 09:02 AM)
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Originally Posted by HTupolev

No. What's really annoying about it is how a lot of the language causing confusion almost feels pointlessly misleading, like "Halo 2 forge is a thing."

Refer to the OP. It's lengthy, but it explains it.

Forge is usable for the 6 halo 2 maps redone with the new engine. You can't use forge for original Halo 2 maps.
HTupolev
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(06-12-2014, 09:04 AM)
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Originally Posted by Solidsoul

Forge is usable for the 6 halo 2 maps redone with the new engine. You can't use forge for original Halo 2 maps.

That's my point. Frankie said "Halo 2 forge is a thing" to announce the presence of Forge on the new-engine stuff, hence my "almost feels pointlessly misleading" comment.

I dunno. My patience for spin spin spin from 343i has been hanging on a mighty thin thread ever since Fourteen Day Buy and Play. Very direct honesty looks better than stretching to make things sound good, especially when you have a product that does not need weird spin in order to generate hype.
Kibbles
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(06-12-2014, 09:05 AM)
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Originally Posted by Ryaaan14



My brain can't handle all these variants.

Yeah it took me a while to explain it to my friends hah, but they are getting Xbones now. I wish there was just one big ViDoc I could show them.
a Master Ninja
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(06-12-2014, 09:07 AM)
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Do my stats and unlocks from the previous Halo games carry over?
Solidsoul
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(06-12-2014, 09:10 AM)
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Originally Posted by HTupolev

That's my point. Frankie said "Halo 2 forge is a thing" to announce the presence of Forge on the new-engine stuff, hence my "almost feels pointlessly misleading" comment.

Yeah, just trying to help further clarify for everyone in the thread.

If you look at it, it's not that crazy. When they released Halo CE Anniversary, they remade Halo 1 maps in the Halo Reach engine. This, understandably displeased many fans of the original multiplayer. So now, to please everyone they are including remade Halo 2 maps with a new engine much like they did with CE. Then so that everyone is happy they are including all of the original multiplayer in its purest form. This way pretty much everyone's wants/desires is filled in one unique package.

I'm so pumped!
dragonelite
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(06-12-2014, 09:13 AM)
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I really hope the six remade map will have their own playlist in multiplayer
Papercuts
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(06-12-2014, 09:24 AM)
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Oh, it's only 6 remade total? I thought that was just all they had for E3 or something. That's weird.
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(06-12-2014, 09:31 AM)
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Awesome thread with a ton of info I hadn't read yet, thank you!
jem0208
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(06-12-2014, 09:32 AM)
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Originally Posted by Solidsoul

Yeah, just trying to help further clarify for everyone in the thread.

If you look at it, it's not that crazy. When they released Halo CE Anniversary, they remade Halo 1 maps in the Halo 4 engine. This, understandably displeased many fans of the original multiplayer. So now, to please everyone they are including remade Halo 2 maps with a new engine much like they did with CE. Then so that everyone is happy they are including all of the original multiplayer in its purest form. This way pretty much everyone's wants/desires is filled in one unique package.

I'm so pumped!

The CE maps were remade in the Reach engine btw, not 4's.
Solidsoul
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(06-12-2014, 09:33 AM)
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Originally Posted by jem0208

The CE maps were remade in the Reach engine btw, not 4's.

I knew that entirely but damn it's late and I made a mistake. Thanks for pointing out. Will edit.
Lettuce
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(06-12-2014, 09:36 AM)
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Will the 4 player co-op horde mode be included I wonder?
cZarKastic
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(06-12-2014, 09:36 AM)
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Hope they somehow tack on ODST and Reach, either through an update or even a DLC so the collection will be complete.
HTupolev
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(06-12-2014, 09:38 AM)
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Originally Posted by Lettuce

Will the 4 player co-op horde mode be included I wonder?

Firefight? It only featured in ODST and Reach, so probably not.
Dead
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(06-12-2014, 09:38 AM)
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So then, we aren't getting the remade maps of CEA?
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(06-12-2014, 09:40 AM)
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Originally Posted by Dead

So then, we aren't getting the remade maps of CEA?

Reach isn't in the package thank god. The originals play perfectly.
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(06-12-2014, 09:41 AM)
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Originally Posted by nomis

Reach isn't in the package thank god. The originals play perfectly.

to each their own. Reach is the best overall Halo work. Sucks that it isn't included, but understandable considering this is the "master chief collection"
Blue Ninja
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(06-12-2014, 09:45 AM)
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Originally Posted by Fracas

Yo Frank, since recon is gone is there a control scheme that lets me map reload to RB?

Recon is gone? Better get my X-pressing skills back up to speed then.

Originally Posted by Kuroyume

Why do the ramps and rotation structure on Ascension look like they're made of chrome?

They were constructed during the Bling Age of the Forerunner Empire, approximately 117,000 years ago.
Echo Six
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(06-12-2014, 09:52 AM)
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So there is no new graphical layer for H2MP?
Mr. Enigma
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(06-12-2014, 09:57 AM)
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Originally Posted by a Master Ninja

Do my stats and unlocks from the previous Halo games carry over?

Doesn't sound like it. Sounds like there's going to be a uniform 1-50 system like Halo 2 for all the games.
Heretic
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(06-12-2014, 09:58 AM)
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Originally Posted by Echo Six

So there is no new graphical layer for H2MP?

Yes. All of them (H2) are remade. 6 of those are also remade in the Halo 5 engine.
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(06-12-2014, 10:03 AM)
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Originally Posted by Heretic

Yes. All of them (H2) are remade. 6 of those are also remade in the Halo 5 engine.

Thanks for confirming. I thought that's what it was, but the discussion above confused me.
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(06-12-2014, 10:06 AM)
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Originally Posted by Heretic

Yes. All of them (H2) are remade. 6 of those are also remade in the Halo 5 engine.

Source on this?
Heretic
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(06-12-2014, 10:09 AM)
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Originally Posted by Mr. Enigma

Source on this?

I thought all of H2 was getting anniversary'd...

Not the case?
Takashi
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(06-12-2014, 10:11 AM)
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Originally Posted by Heretic

I thought all of H2 was getting anniversary'd...

Not the case?

The campaign and cutscenes are getting remastered

Edit: from the OP

All of the original Halo 2 maps are playable, including Halo 2 Vista and DLC maps.

In addition to the old maps, six Halo 2 maps are being remastered on a "newish" Xbox One engine that "feels like a modern take on Halo 2". These maps allow Forge editing

Completely remastered Halo 2 Campaign including "Anniversary graphics", music, and sound effects, as well as Story Terminals.

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